He is a biologist, even he prefer mentioned as a nature lover. He is an avid birdwatcher. He have worked on bird conservation NGO. He got an internship on Climate Change and City Resilience Project. His experience as a research assistant of Macaque Project bring him to be a staff on the research station in the park. After taking an ecotour guide and getting his ecotour guide certification, now he focus to build Orangutan Applause Tour with his family and colleague. He love to say “my job is my holiday”